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J Mascis Returns to Omaha
By Kyle Eustice
 
The rumors are true. Heralded as one of the most difficult artists to interview by countless music journalists, Dinosaur Jr. frontman J Mascis is a man of few words. It’s not that he’s trying to be a jerk, he’s just quite possibly the most laid back dude you’ll ever meet, and I was ok with that.
When I was 14-years-old, I was experiencing that rebellious phase that most teenagers encounter around the beginning of high school. My best friend Kate and I decided it would be a good idea to take several rolls of quarters from her mother, which in retrospect wasn’t the nicest or most honest way to go about getting something we wanted. We just had to have the new Dinosaur, Jr. album though, so it seemed justified in our minds. I tell J Mascis this story and here is part of that exchange:

Kyle Eustice: We got Green Mind on tape and a few Dinosaur Jr. shirts with the quarters we stole.
J Mascis: Oh nice.

Karma has probably paid me back by now.
Maybe not yet.

[Laughs] I hope you’re wrong.
In those three words, “maybe not yet,” Mascis made me light up with his dry wit and subtle sense of humor. It’s something that’s carried his career from his humble beginnings in the Boston area to his now god-like status as one of the best guitar players on the planet. He was ranked number 86 in Rolling Stone magazine’s list of the “100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time,” and in 2012, he was ranked 5th by Spin. It’s surprising because he initially started his musical career as a drummer.
“I picked up a guitar just to form another band,” he says. “I just didn’t like any of the guitar players around and I figured I could show somebody how to play drums adequately. It was just for the sake of making some new music.”
Immersed in the ‘80s Boston hardcore scene, Mascis naturally gravitated towards that type of music. His form of rebellion wasn’t doing drugs or drinking. He went the opposite way and was completely straightedge, but it’s nothing he pushes on people today.
“Oh, I don’t care what people do,” he says. “I came to that kind of conclusion on my own and to hear Minor Threat at the time, I could really relate to it more than junkie punk rockers. That was exactly how I was feeling at the time. I was sick of all the hippies and stuff.”
As the conversation went on, it got more and more interesting, at least to me. He is known to play a Fender Jazzmaster guitar and he didn’t hesitate talking about that, but in the most apathetic way, of course.

KE: Do you prefer Jazzmasters over anything else?
JM: That’s hard to say. It’s just because I learned how to play on it and I’m used to it. I don’t know if it’s the ultimate guitar or anything.

Did you know Sean Lennon plays the same one?
Oh yeah, I was actually talking to him about that before.

Both my father and his father [John Lennon] played Rickenbackers. He doesn’t own any. My Dad also has a Hofner bass, which is Sean’s favorite, but he won’t play it because it’s so obvious a Beatles bass.
Yeah, I’m sure he has a lot of baggage to deal with it.

Agreed. So I grew up on Fugazi, Sonic Youth, Mudhoney, and of course Dinosaur Jr. How important was Sonic Youth to your career path?
Oh yeah. They helped us a lot. They gave us our first tour. They helped us get on SST. They helped us get on this label Blast First in England, you know, so they definitely helped us a lot.
You’re Living All Over Me was your first record with SST, which you said was a goal for you. Why did you want to put out a record with SST?
They had the bands we liked and our goal was to tour and stuff. We admired bands like Meat Puppets, Minutemen, Husker Du, and Black Flag, among a lot of others. SST seemed like the most awesome label you could be on.

Green Mind was your first major label record. What was that experience like?
I don’t have any contact with them. They just seem as alien as they used to. They just seem bizarre. I mean, I never ever thought about them when I was a kid or when I was in Dinosaur. It was just like all of a sudden they started being interested and you’re like, ‘well, maybe that would be good.’ It was more straightforward then what I was dealing with before. They paid me when they said they would and they didn’t’ interfere.

So you had a relatively good experience?
It seemed pretty good until they weren’t interested anymore. It was bad then. Then you move on. When I was on it, it was pretty good.
Mascis just released his sixth studio album, Tied To A Star, which is on the Seattle-based label, Sub Pop. Although he prefers playing with a band ultimately, you would never know it by the sound of the new album. It bursts with his signature melancholy touch and impeccable guitar playing you’d come to expect from him.

KE: I think the new album is really good.
JM: Thanks.

Where do you draw inspiration from in terms of lyrics?
From the same old, basic dissatisfaction with things and wanting to try to relate to people somehow.

Relate to your music?
Maybe. Who knows?

I was really excited to interview you so I started doing some research. All of these music journalists kept saying how impossible it was to talk to you. Why do you think you’ve earned that reputation?
Probably just most people are idiots [laughs].

I agree with you there, too. The older I get, the less tolerant I am. Describe your perfect day.
I don’t know because it comes and goes; these moments where you’re like this is an awesome day or something. I can’t really say it’s what I would be doing when that feeling comes.

Does it happen in the studio?
Probably not. [laughs]

I read you used to have these studios you ‘d have to pay $1000 an hour for in New York City and eventually you couldn’t focus on anything but that. Is that why you prefer your home studio?
It’s just different. I didn’t even think I’d have a studio. It’s just that one day, like you said, I started fixating on this thought and I was staring out of the window just thinking how much money it’s costing to stare out the window. From then on, I just had to do something else. Until then, I liked studios.

Before I let you go, you were almost sued for going by your original name, Dinosaur because of another group called The Dinosaurs. Wasn’t the “The” and “s” a big enough difference?
I guess legally that’s not different enough. I thought it was different enough.
J Mascis with Luluc, October 8, at The Waiting Room, 6212 Maple St., 8 p.m. Tickets are $17. Visit www.onepercentproductions.com for more information.

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